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james31

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:48 pm
Post subject: SQL-NS Discontinued???
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I googled this and MSDN is stating that is is discontinued. I searched for
SQL-SN in SQL Server 2008 and I cannot find anything. What gives? This
almost seems like a hoax.

JIM

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Joe Webb1

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:31 am Post subject: Re: SQL-NS Discontinued??? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:48:34 -0500, james wrote: > I googled this and MSDN is stating that is is discontinued. I searched for > SQL-SN in SQL Server 2008 and I cannot find anything. What gives? This > almost seems like a hoax. > > JIM Can you post the url? -- Joe Webb SQL Server MVP http://www.sqlns.com >> Stay informed about: SQL-NS Discontinued???

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: SQL-NS Discontinued??? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms144262.aspx just google it "Joe Webb" wrote in message > On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:48:34 -0500, james wrote: > >> I googled this and MSDN is stating that is is discontinued. I searched >> for >> SQL-SN in SQL Server 2008 and I cannot find anything. What gives? This >> almost seems like a hoax. >> >> JIM > > > Can you post the url? > > -- > Joe Webb > SQL Server MVP > http://www.sqlns.com >> Stay informed about: SQL-NS Discontinued???

Adam Machanic

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: SQL-NS Discontinued??? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

The "SQL-NS" mentioned in that link is SQL Namespace; not the same "SQL-NS" that this newsgroup is dedicated to. I've seen no announcements about SQL Server Notification Services being discontinued. -- Adam Machanic SQL Server MVP Author, "Expert SQL Server 2005 Development" http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10220 "james" wrote in message > http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms144262.aspx > > just google it > > > > "Joe Webb" wrote in message > >> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:48:34 -0500, james wrote: >> >>> I googled this and MSDN is stating that is is discontinued. I searched >>> for >>> SQL-SN in SQL Server 2008 and I cannot find anything. What gives? This >>> almost seems like a hoax. >>> >>> JIM >> >> >> Can you post the url? >> >> -- >> Joe Webb >> SQL Server MVP >> http://www.sqlns.com > > >> Stay informed about: SQL-NS Discontinued???

James

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: SQL-NS Discontinued??? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

But if the namespace is discontinued then doesn't that make it iompossible to develope integrated application and to build Application hosing of SQL - NS ?????????? JIM "Adam Machanic" wrote in message > The "SQL-NS" mentioned in that link is SQL Namespace; not the same > "SQL-NS" that this newsgroup is dedicated to. I've seen no announcements > about SQL Server Notification Services being discontinued. > > > -- > > Adam Machanic > SQL Server MVP > > Author, "Expert SQL Server 2005 Development" > http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10220 > > > > "james" wrote in message > >> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms144262.aspx >> >> just google it >> >> >> >> "Joe Webb" wrote in message >> >>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:48:34 -0500, james wrote: >>> >>>> I googled this and MSDN is stating that is is discontinued. I searched >>>> for >>>> SQL-SN in SQL Server 2008 and I cannot find anything. What gives? >>>> This >>>> almost seems like a hoax. >>>> >>>> JIM >>> >>> >>> Can you post the url? >>> >>> -- >>> Joe Webb >>> SQL Server MVP >>> http://www.sqlns.com >> >> > >> Stay informed about: SQL-NS Discontinued???

Adam Machanic

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: SQL-NS Discontinued??? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

SQL Namespace is an API used to control Enterprise Manager functionality. As far as I'm aware, nothing else is in there. Since EM is gone, I don't see how this effects anything or anyone. Correct me if I'm wrong... -- Adam Machanic SQL Server MVP Author, "Expert SQL Server 2005 Development" http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10220 "James" wrote in message > But if the namespace is discontinued then doesn't that make it iompossible > to develope integrated application and to build Application hosing of > SQL - NS ?????????? > > > > > > JIM > > > > "Adam Machanic" wrote in message > >> The "SQL-NS" mentioned in that link is SQL Namespace; not the same >> "SQL-NS" that this newsgroup is dedicated to. I've seen no announcements >> about SQL Server Notification Services being discontinued. >> >> >> -- >> >> Adam Machanic >> SQL Server MVP >> >> Author, "Expert SQL Server 2005 Development" >> http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10220 >> >> >> >> "james" wrote in message >> >>> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms144262.aspx >>> >>> just google it >>> >>> >>> >>> "Joe Webb" wrote in message >>> >>>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:48:34 -0500, james wrote: >>>> >>>>> I googled this and MSDN is stating that is is discontinued. I >>>>> searched for >>>>> SQL-SN in SQL Server 2008 and I cannot find anything. What gives? >>>>> This >>>>> almost seems like a hoax. >>>>> >>>>> JIM >>>> >>>> >>>> Can you post the url? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Joe Webb >>>> SQL Server MVP >>>> http://www.sqlns.com >>> >>> >> > > >> Stay informed about: SQL-NS Discontinued???

James

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: SQL-NS Discontinued??? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

I thought it was the .Net namespace for adding subscriptions and controlling SQL-NS etc ... JIM "Adam Machanic" wrote in message > SQL Namespace is an API used to control Enterprise Manager functionality. > As far as I'm aware, nothing else is in there. Since EM is gone, I don't > see how this effects anything or anyone. Correct me if I'm wrong... > > > -- > > Adam Machanic > SQL Server MVP > > Author, "Expert SQL Server 2005 Development" > http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10220 > > > > "James" wrote in message > >> But if the namespace is discontinued then doesn't that make it >> iompossible to develope integrated application and to build Application >> hosing of SQL - NS ?????????? >> >> >> >> >> >> JIM >> >> >> >> "Adam Machanic" wrote in message >> >>> The "SQL-NS" mentioned in that link is SQL Namespace; not the same >>> "SQL-NS" that this newsgroup is dedicated to. I've seen no >>> announcements about SQL Server Notification Services being discontinued. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Adam Machanic >>> SQL Server MVP >>> >>> Author, "Expert SQL Server 2005 Development" >>> http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10220 >>> >>> >>> >>> "james" wrote in message >>> >>>> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms144262.aspx >>>> >>>> just google it >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Joe Webb" wrote in message >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:48:34 -0500, james wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I googled this and MSDN is stating that is is discontinued. I >>>>>> searched for >>>>>> SQL-SN in SQL Server 2008 and I cannot find anything. What gives? >>>>>> This >>>>>> almost seems like a hoax. >>>>>> >>>>>> JIM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Can you post the url? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Joe Webb >>>>> SQL Server MVP >>>>> http://www.sqlns.com >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > >> Stay informed about: SQL-NS Discontinued???

Adam Machanic

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: SQL-NS Discontinued??? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Microsoft named two things the same... Long before there was SQL Server Notification Services (SQL-NS), there was SQL Namespace (SQL-NS). SQL Namespace has nothing to do with Notification Services, and it also has nothing to do with .NET namespaces. And it is the one that article you posted says is being retired. -- Adam Machanic SQL Server MVP Author, "Expert SQL Server 2005 Development" http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10220 "James" wrote in message >I thought it was the .Net namespace for adding subscriptions and >controlling SQL-NS etc ... > > JIM > > > "Adam Machanic" wrote in message > >> SQL Namespace is an API used to control Enterprise Manager functionality. >> As far as I'm aware, nothing else is in there. Since EM is gone, I don't >> see how this effects anything or anyone. Correct me if I'm wrong... >> >> >> -- >> >> Adam Machanic >> SQL Server MVP >> >> Author, "Expert SQL Server 2005 Development" >> http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10220 >> >> >> >> "James" wrote in message >> >>> But if the namespace is discontinued then doesn't that make it >>> iompossible to develope integrated application and to build Application >>> hosing of SQL - NS ?????????? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> JIM >>> >>> >>> >>> "Adam Machanic" wrote in message >>> >>>> The "SQL-NS" mentioned in that link is SQL Namespace; not the same >>>> "SQL-NS" that this newsgroup is dedicated to. I've seen no >>>> announcements about SQL Server Notification Services being >>>> discontinued. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Adam Machanic >>>> SQL Server MVP >>>> >>>> Author, "Expert SQL Server 2005 Development" >>>> http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10220 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "james" wrote in message >>>> >>>>> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms144262.aspx >>>>> >>>>> just google it >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Joe Webb" wrote in message >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:48:34 -0500, james wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I googled this and MSDN is stating that is is discontinued. I >>>>>>> searched for >>>>>>> SQL-SN in SQL Server 2008 and I cannot find anything. What gives? >>>>>>> This >>>>>>> almost seems like a hoax. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> JIM >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you post the url? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Joe Webb >>>>>> SQL Server MVP >>>>>> http://www.sqlns.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > >> Stay informed about: SQL-NS Discontinued???

SteveH

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:14 am Post subject: Re: SQL-NS Discontinued??? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

I saw the following regarding SQL 2008 July CTP :- SQL Server Notification Services will not be included as a component of SQL Server 2008, but will continue to be supported as part of the SQL Server 2005 product support life-cycle. Moving forward, support for key notification scenarios will be incorporated into SQL Server Reporting Services. Existing Reporting Services functionality, such as data driven subscriptions, addresses some of the notification requirements. Features to support additional notification scenarios may be expected in future releases. Does this mean notification services is dead ? "Adam Machanic" wrote: > Microsoft named two things the same... Long before there was SQL Server > Notification Services (SQL-NS), there was SQL Namespace (SQL-NS). SQL > Namespace has nothing to do with Notification Services, and it also has > nothing to do with .NET namespaces. And it is the one that article you > posted says is being retired. > > > -- > > Adam Machanic > SQL Server MVP > > Author, "Expert SQL Server 2005 Development" > http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10220 > > > > "James" wrote in message > > >I thought it was the .Net namespace for adding subscriptions and > >controlling SQL-NS etc ... > > > > JIM > > > > > > "Adam Machanic" wrote in message > > > >> SQL Namespace is an API used to control Enterprise Manager functionality. > >> As far as I'm aware, nothing else is in there. Since EM is gone, I don't > >> see how this effects anything or anyone. Correct me if I'm wrong... > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Adam Machanic > >> SQL Server MVP > >> > >> Author, "Expert SQL Server 2005 Development" > >> http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10220 > >> > >> > >> > >> "James" wrote in message > >> > >>> But if the namespace is discontinued then doesn't that make it > >>> iompossible to develope integrated application and to build Application > >>> hosing of SQL - NS ?????????? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> JIM > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> "Adam Machanic" wrote in message > >>> > >>>> The "SQL-NS" mentioned in that link is SQL Namespace; not the same > >>>> "SQL-NS" that this newsgroup is dedicated to. I've seen no > >>>> announcements about SQL Server Notification Services being > >>>> discontinued. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> Adam Machanic > >>>> SQL Server MVP > >>>> > >>>> Author, "Expert SQL Server 2005 Development" > >>>> http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10220 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> "james" wrote in message > >>>> > >>>>> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms144262.aspx > >>>>> > >>>>> just google it > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> "Joe Webb" wrote in message > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:48:34 -0500, james wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> I googled this and MSDN is stating that is is discontinued. I > >>>>>>> searched for > >>>>>>> SQL-SN in SQL Server 2008 and I cannot find anything. What gives? > >>>>>>> This > >>>>>>> almost seems like a hoax. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> JIM > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Can you post the url? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Joe Webb > >>>>>> SQL Server MVP > >>>>>> http://www.sqlns.com > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > >> Stay informed about: SQL-NS Discontinued???

Joe Webb1

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:33 am Post subject: Re: SQL-NS Discontinued??? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

I'm sad to say that Microsoft has departed from the normal depreciation process and has decided to remove SSNS from Katmai. There will be no official announcement on this, only the readme that you've cited. Microsoft envisions future versions of SSRS (not Katmai) will have enhancements that will allow it to mostly replace SSNS. But there is no migration path available in Katmai. In the meantime, I'm looking at ways to try to migrate instances to SSRS but it'll largely depend on the capabilities of SSRS in Katmai. HTH... -- Joe Webb SQL Server MVP http://www.sqlns.com On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:14:03 -0700, SteveH wrote: > I saw the following regarding SQL 2008 July CTP :- > > SQL Server Notification Services will not be included as a component of > SQL Server 2008, but will continue to be supported as part of the SQL > Server 2005 product support life-cycle. Moving forward, support for key > notification scenarios will be incorporated into SQL Server Reporting > Services. Existing Reporting Services functionality, such as data driven > subscriptions, addresses some of the notification requirements. Features > to support additional notification scenarios may be expected in future > releases. > > Does this mean notification services is dead ? > > "Adam Machanic" wrote: > >> Microsoft named two things the same... Long before there was SQL >> Server Notification Services (SQL-NS), there was SQL Namespace >> (SQL-NS). SQL Namespace has nothing to do with Notification Services, >> and it also has nothing to do with .NET namespaces. And it is the one >> that article you posted says is being retired. >> >> >> -- >> >> Adam Machanic >> SQL Server MVP >> >> Author, "Expert SQL Server 2005 Development" >> http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10220 >> >> >> >> "James" wrote in message >> >> >I thought it was the .Net namespace for adding subscriptions and >> >controlling SQL-NS etc ... >> > >> > JIM >> > >> > >> > "Adam Machanic" wrote in message >> > >> >> SQL Namespace is an API used to control Enterprise Manager >> >> functionality. As far as I'm aware, nothing else is in there. Since >> >> EM is gone, I don't see how this effects anything or anyone. >> >> Correct me if I'm wrong... >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Adam Machanic >> >> SQL Server MVP >> >> >> >> Author, "Expert SQL Server 2005 Development" >> >> http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10220 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "James" wrote in message >> >> >> >>> But if the namespace is discontinued then doesn't that make it >> >>> iompossible to develope integrated application and to build >> >>> Application hosing of SQL - NS ?????????? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> JIM >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> "Adam Machanic" wrote in message >> >>> >> >>>> The "SQL-NS" mentioned in that link is SQL Namespace; not the same >> >>>> "SQL-NS" that this newsgroup is dedicated to. I've seen no >> >>>> announcements about SQL Server Notification Services being >> >>>> discontinued. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> >> >>>> Adam Machanic >> >>>> SQL Server MVP >> >>>> >> >>>> Author, "Expert SQL Server 2005 Development" >> >>>> http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10220 >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> "james" wrote in message >> >>>> >> >>>>> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms144262.aspx >> >>>>> >> >>>>> just google it >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> "Joe Webb" wrote in message >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:48:34 -0500, james wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I googled this and MSDN is stating that is is discontinued. I >> >>>>>>> searched for >> >>>>>>> SQL-SN in SQL Server 2008 and I cannot find anything. What >> >>>>>>> gives? This >> >>>>>>> almost seems like a hoax. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> JIM >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Can you post the url? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> Joe Webb >> >>>>>> SQL Server MVP >> >>>>>> http://www.sqlns.com >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > >> Stay informed about: SQL-NS Discontinued???

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