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Steve

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:48 am
Post subject: SQL 2005 Active/Passive
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We have a sql2005 active/passive win2003 x64 cluster. when the db's are on
the active node..we see all of the sql tools available. on the passive node,
we don't. is this by design as we did a complete install. any help is
appreciated. thx. steve

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Linchi Shea

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:02 am
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That's by design.

Linchi

"Steve" wrote:

> We have a sql2005 active/passive win2003 x64 cluster. when the db's are on
> the active node..we see all of the sql tools available. on the passive node,
> we don't. is this by design as we did a complete install. any help is
> appreciated. thx. steve

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:06 am
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Thanks--so we need to fail it back to the active to get the full performance
tools, etc.?

"Linchi Shea" wrote:

> That's by design.
>
> Linchi
>
> "Steve" wrote:
>
> > We have a sql2005 active/passive win2003 x64 cluster. when the db's are on
> > the active node..we see all of the sql tools available. on the passive node,
> > we don't. is this by design as we did a complete install. any help is
> > appreciated. thx. steve
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Geoff N. Hiten

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:40 pm
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You can do a workstation components only install on the "other" node. The
tools installation component is not cluster-aware. There is no problem with
adding the tools to additional cluster nodes.

--
Geoff N. Hiten
Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
Microsoft SQL Server MVP




"Steve" wrote in message

> Thanks--so we need to fail it back to the active to get the full
> performance
> tools, etc.?
>
> "Linchi Shea" wrote:
>
>> That's by design.
>>
>> Linchi
>>
>> "Steve" wrote:
>>
>> > We have a sql2005 active/passive win2003 x64 cluster. when the db's are
>> > on
>> > the active node..we see all of the sql tools available. on the passive
>> > node,
>> > we don't. is this by design as we did a complete install. any help is
>> > appreciated. thx. steve
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:11 am
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Do you have a link to the instructions..and should it be failed over to the
other node when doing this? Thanks. Steve

"Geoff N. Hiten" wrote:

> You can do a workstation components only install on the "other" node. The
> tools installation component is not cluster-aware. There is no problem with
> adding the tools to additional cluster nodes.
>
> --
> Geoff N. Hiten
> Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>
>
>
>
> "Steve" wrote in message
>
> > Thanks--so we need to fail it back to the active to get the full
> > performance
> > tools, etc.?
> >
> > "Linchi Shea" wrote:
> >
> >> That's by design.
> >>
> >> Linchi
> >>
> >> "Steve" wrote:
> >>
> >> > We have a sql2005 active/passive win2003 x64 cluster. when the db's are
> >> > on
> >> > the active node..we see all of the sql tools available. on the passive
> >> > node,
> >> > we don't. is this by design as we did a complete install. any help is
> >> > appreciated. thx. steve
>
>
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Geoff N. Hiten

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:24 pm
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Run the installer. When you get to the components selection screen, run
"Workstation Components". Then re-run the service pack.

--
Geoff N. Hiten
Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
Microsoft SQL Server MVP


"Steve" wrote in message

> Do you have a link to the instructions..and should it be failed over to
> the
> other node when doing this? Thanks. Steve
>
> "Geoff N. Hiten" wrote:
>
>> You can do a workstation components only install on the "other" node.
>> The
>> tools installation component is not cluster-aware. There is no problem
>> with
>> adding the tools to additional cluster nodes.
>>
>> --
>> Geoff N. Hiten
>> Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
>> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Steve" wrote in message
>>
>> > Thanks--so we need to fail it back to the active to get the full
>> > performance
>> > tools, etc.?
>> >
>> > "Linchi Shea" wrote:
>> >
>> >> That's by design.
>> >>
>> >> Linchi
>> >>
>> >> "Steve" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > We have a sql2005 active/passive win2003 x64 cluster. when the db's
>> >> > are
>> >> > on
>> >> > the active node..we see all of the sql tools available. on the
>> >> > passive
>> >> > node,
>> >> > we don't. is this by design as we did a complete install. any help
>> >> > is
>> >> > appreciated. thx. steve
>>
>>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:24 pm
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Thanks Geoff..I am more of an Exchange admin than a SQL admin. should I fail
back to the other node before doing this on the passive (currently the active
node)?

"Geoff N. Hiten" wrote:

> Run the installer. When you get to the components selection screen, run
> "Workstation Components". Then re-run the service pack.
>
> --
> Geoff N. Hiten
> Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>
>
> "Steve" wrote in message
>
> > Do you have a link to the instructions..and should it be failed over to
> > the
> > other node when doing this? Thanks. Steve
> >
> > "Geoff N. Hiten" wrote:
> >
> >> You can do a workstation components only install on the "other" node.
> >> The
> >> tools installation component is not cluster-aware. There is no problem
> >> with
> >> adding the tools to additional cluster nodes.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Geoff N. Hiten
> >> Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
> >> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Steve" wrote in message
> >>
> >> > Thanks--so we need to fail it back to the active to get the full
> >> > performance
> >> > tools, etc.?
> >> >
> >> > "Linchi Shea" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> That's by design.
> >> >>
> >> >> Linchi
> >> >>
> >> >> "Steve" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > We have a sql2005 active/passive win2003 x64 cluster. when the db's
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > on
> >> >> > the active node..we see all of the sql tools available. on the
> >> >> > passive
> >> >> > node,
> >> >> > we don't. is this by design as we did a complete install. any help
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > appreciated. thx. steve
> >>
> >>
>
>
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Geoff N. Hiten

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:25 am
Post subject: Re: SQL 2005 Active/Passive [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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It is safest to run the installer when the node is not currently hosting
anything, but it is not mandatory.

--
Geoff N. Hiten
Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
Microsoft SQL Server MVP


"Steve" wrote in message

> Thanks Geoff..I am more of an Exchange admin than a SQL admin. should I
> fail
> back to the other node before doing this on the passive (currently the
> active
> node)?
>
> "Geoff N. Hiten" wrote:
>
>> Run the installer. When you get to the components selection screen, run
>> "Workstation Components". Then re-run the service pack.
>>
>> --
>> Geoff N. Hiten
>> Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
>> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>>
>>
>> "Steve" wrote in message
>>
>> > Do you have a link to the instructions..and should it be failed over to
>> > the
>> > other node when doing this? Thanks. Steve
>> >
>> > "Geoff N. Hiten" wrote:
>> >
>> >> You can do a workstation components only install on the "other" node.
>> >> The
>> >> tools installation component is not cluster-aware. There is no
>> >> problem
>> >> with
>> >> adding the tools to additional cluster nodes.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Geoff N. Hiten
>> >> Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
>> >> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Steve" wrote in message
>> >>
>> >> > Thanks--so we need to fail it back to the active to get the full
>> >> > performance
>> >> > tools, etc.?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Linchi Shea" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> That's by design.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Linchi
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Steve" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > We have a sql2005 active/passive win2003 x64 cluster. when the
>> >> >> > db's
>> >> >> > are
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > the active node..we see all of the sql tools available. on the
>> >> >> > passive
>> >> >> > node,
>> >> >> > we don't. is this by design as we did a complete install. any
>> >> >> > help
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > appreciated. thx. steve
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:25 am
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the service pack was installed when the sql2005 was installed on the active
(and passive). if i install the workstation tools, should i install it on the
passive again..and will that cause any issues? thanks. steve


"Geoff N. Hiten" wrote:

> It is safest to run the installer when the node is not currently hosting
> anything, but it is not mandatory.
>
> --
> Geoff N. Hiten
> Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>
>
> "Steve" wrote in message
>
> > Thanks Geoff..I am more of an Exchange admin than a SQL admin. should I
> > fail
> > back to the other node before doing this on the passive (currently the
> > active
> > node)?
> >
> > "Geoff N. Hiten" wrote:
> >
> >> Run the installer. When you get to the components selection screen, run
> >> "Workstation Components". Then re-run the service pack.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Geoff N. Hiten
> >> Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
> >> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
> >>
> >>
> >> "Steve" wrote in message
> >>
> >> > Do you have a link to the instructions..and should it be failed over to
> >> > the
> >> > other node when doing this? Thanks. Steve
> >> >
> >> > "Geoff N. Hiten" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> You can do a workstation components only install on the "other" node.
> >> >> The
> >> >> tools installation component is not cluster-aware. There is no
> >> >> problem
> >> >> with
> >> >> adding the tools to additional cluster nodes.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Geoff N. Hiten
> >> >> Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
> >> >> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Steve" wrote in message
> >> >>
> >> >> > Thanks--so we need to fail it back to the active to get the full
> >> >> > performance
> >> >> > tools, etc.?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Linchi Shea" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> That's by design.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Linchi
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Steve" wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > We have a sql2005 active/passive win2003 x64 cluster. when the
> >> >> >> > db's
> >> >> >> > are
> >> >> >> > on
> >> >> >> > the active node..we see all of the sql tools available. on the
> >> >> >> > passive
> >> >> >> > node,
> >> >> >> > we don't. is this by design as we did a complete install. any
> >> >> >> > help
> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> > appreciated. thx. steve
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:00 am
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No. The SP installer is smart enough to see what is up to date. Also, you
can pick which components to update if you don't want or need to update the
entire list.

--
Geoff N. Hiten
Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
Microsoft SQL Server MVP


"Steve" wrote in message

> the service pack was installed when the sql2005 was installed on the
> active
> (and passive). if i install the workstation tools, should i install it on
> the
> passive again..and will that cause any issues? thanks. steve
>
>
> "Geoff N. Hiten" wrote:
>
>> It is safest to run the installer when the node is not currently hosting
>> anything, but it is not mandatory.
>>
>> --
>> Geoff N. Hiten
>> Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
>> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>>
>>
>> "Steve" wrote in message
>>
>> > Thanks Geoff..I am more of an Exchange admin than a SQL admin. should I
>> > fail
>> > back to the other node before doing this on the passive (currently the
>> > active
>> > node)?
>> >
>> > "Geoff N. Hiten" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Run the installer. When you get to the components selection screen,
>> >> run
>> >> "Workstation Components". Then re-run the service pack.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Geoff N. Hiten
>> >> Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
>> >> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Steve" wrote in message
>> >>
>> >> > Do you have a link to the instructions..and should it be failed over
>> >> > to
>> >> > the
>> >> > other node when doing this? Thanks. Steve
>> >> >
>> >> > "Geoff N. Hiten" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> You can do a workstation components only install on the "other"
>> >> >> node.
>> >> >> The
>> >> >> tools installation component is not cluster-aware. There is no
>> >> >> problem
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> adding the tools to additional cluster nodes.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Geoff N. Hiten
>> >> >> Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
>> >> >> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Steve" wrote in message
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Thanks--so we need to fail it back to the active to get the full
>> >> >> > performance
>> >> >> > tools, etc.?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Linchi Shea" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> That's by design.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Linchi
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Steve" wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > We have a sql2005 active/passive win2003 x64 cluster. when the
>> >> >> >> > db's
>> >> >> >> > are
>> >> >> >> > on
>> >> >> >> > the active node..we see all of the sql tools available. on the
>> >> >> >> > passive
>> >> >> >> > node,
>> >> >> >> > we don't. is this by design as we did a complete install. any
>> >> >> >> > help
>> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> > appreciated. thx. steve
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
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