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Sundial Services

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Since: Sep 14, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:13 am
Post subject: ChimneySweep Release-X Features Discussion
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We are currently evaluating features for a possible "ChimneySweep Release-X"
that would follow the current Release 5.1 which has now been on the market
for nearly 3 years.  During that time, enormous changes have taken place
not only in the Windows operating-system but, as we all know, with Paradox
itself.  After such lengthy delays in the release cycle (most of them
caused by external events not of interest here)... the question is, what
should the forthcoming release contain.

Based on the in-progress (and in most cases nearly-complete) code base that
we have for this product, this "Release-X" ... which would undoubtedly be
the final one ... might contain the following.  Your comments are welcome.

(1) 16-BIT SUPPORT IS GONE:  No question about that.  Holding on to 16-bit
and 32-bit parallel compatibility proved to be a serious error as we held
on to it as a keystone product point long after its market usefulness had
ceased.  Support for 16-bit software is virtually gone already in Windows,
and it has quite clearly long outlived its usefulness.

(2) THE SCHEDULER IS GONE:  Windows Vista put a stake of holly through the
heart of the scheduler revision code, which was to be a Windows system
service, by eliminating the ability of a system service to interact
directly with the GUI.  However, Vista already provides an excellent
scheduler of its own.  We don't need two.

(3) JOB AND JOB-OUTPUT MANAGEMENT:  The plan is to store job information and
an output-catalog in two XML-formatted repositories.  Job output also would
initially be an XML, not flat-text file, which would then be transformed
into an HTML-based output.  A third schedule-repository originally
contemplated is gone.  Jobs and output would be filed by GUIDs.

(4) FURTHER SIMPLIFICATION OF THE JOB CREATION PROCESS:  "Just tell me where
the tables are.  Or, let me figure them out from the alias-list.  Give me
passwords if I determine that I need them.  All the other options can be
default."


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Steven Green

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:17 pm
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> During that time, enormous changes have taken place not only in the
> Windows operating-system but, as we all know, with Paradox itself.

sorry, but I gotta ask.. the last version of Paradox tables was released in
1997, and the last real "new" version of Paradox software hit the streets in
2000.. what, pray tell, has happened in the last three years that
constitutes an "enormous change" ??


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"Sundial Services" wrote in message

> We are currently evaluating features for a possible "ChimneySweep
> Release-X"
> that would follow the current Release 5.1 which has now been on the market
> for nearly 3 years. During that time, enormous changes have taken place
> not only in the Windows operating-system but, as we all know, with Paradox
> itself. After such lengthy delays in the release cycle (most of them
> caused by external events not of interest here)... the question is, what
> should the forthcoming release contain.
>
> Based on the in-progress (and in most cases nearly-complete) code base
> that
> we have for this product, this "Release-X" ... which would undoubtedly be
> the final one ... might contain the following. Your comments are welcome.
>
> (1) 16-BIT SUPPORT IS GONE: No question about that. Holding on to 16-bit
> and 32-bit parallel compatibility proved to be a serious error as we held
> on to it as a keystone product point long after its market usefulness had
> ceased. Support for 16-bit software is virtually gone already in Windows,
> and it has quite clearly long outlived its usefulness.
>
> (2) THE SCHEDULER IS GONE: Windows Vista put a stake of holly through the
> heart of the scheduler revision code, which was to be a Windows system
> service, by eliminating the ability of a system service to interact
> directly with the GUI. However, Vista already provides an excellent
> scheduler of its own. We don't need two.
>
> (3) JOB AND JOB-OUTPUT MANAGEMENT: The plan is to store job information
> and
> an output-catalog in two XML-formatted repositories. Job output also would
> initially be an XML, not flat-text file, which would then be transformed
> into an HTML-based output. A third schedule-repository originally
> contemplated is gone. Jobs and output would be filed by GUIDs.
>
> (4) FURTHER SIMPLIFICATION OF THE JOB CREATION PROCESS: "Just tell me
> where
> the tables are. Or, let me figure them out from the alias-list. Give me
> passwords if I determine that I need them. All the other options can be
> default."
>
>
> ----
> ChimneySweep(R): Fast(!) table repair at a click of the mouse!
> http://www.sundialservices.com

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Sundial Services

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:04 pm
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Steven Green wrote:

>> During that time, enormous changes have taken place not only in the
>> Windows operating-system but, as we all know, with Paradox itself.
>
> sorry, but I gotta ask.. the last version of Paradox tables was released
> in 1997, and the last real "new" version of Paradox software hit the
> streets in 2000.. what, pray tell, has happened in the last three years
> that constitutes an "enormous change" ??

There are actually /several/ ways to answer that question...

First, the Windows operating-system has finally discovered what "security"
means, and that running as an Administrator for every little thing is
really not a good idea. Vista is the first Windows release that really
embraces this... that grabs on the notion that "even though this is 'your'
computer, there are things that 'you' should not be able to do" and will
not let go.

Second, "Paradox is only the tip of the iceberg." ChimneySweep could expand
into the rather-vast uncharted world of dBase(R) derivatives. BDE's
support of "dBase" is only a small part of that world.

{Venture capitalists, please e-mail soonest.} Wink [Umm, no kidding!]

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:31 pm
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> There are actually /several/ ways to answer that question...

thanks..


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Diamond Software Group
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Paradox Support & Sales

Diamond Sports Gems
http://www.diamondsg.com/gemsmain.htm
Sports Memorabilia and Trading Cards
"Sundial Services" wrote in message

> Steven Green wrote:
>
>>> During that time, enormous changes have taken place not only in the
>>> Windows operating-system but, as we all know, with Paradox itself.
>>
>> sorry, but I gotta ask.. the last version of Paradox tables was released
>> in 1997, and the last real "new" version of Paradox software hit the
>> streets in 2000.. what, pray tell, has happened in the last three years
>> that constitutes an "enormous change" ??
>
> There are actually /several/ ways to answer that question...
>
> First, the Windows operating-system has finally discovered what "security"
> means, and that running as an Administrator for every little thing is
> really not a good idea. Vista is the first Windows release that really
> embraces this... that grabs on the notion that "even though this is 'your'
> computer, there are things that 'you' should not be able to do" and will
> not let go.
>
> Second, "Paradox is only the tip of the iceberg." ChimneySweep could
> expand
> into the rather-vast uncharted world of dBase(R) derivatives. BDE's
> support of "dBase" is only a small part of that world.
>
> {Venture capitalists, please e-mail soonest.} Wink [Umm, no kidding!]
>
> ----
> ChimneySweep(R): Fast(!) table repair at a click of the mouse!
> http://www.sundialservices.com
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Fred Z

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:30 pm
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On Feb 5, 11:59 am, Kenneth Porter
wrote:
> Sundial Services wrote innews:47857d15@pnews.thedbcommunity.com:
>
> > Vista is the first Windows release that really embraces this... that
> > grabs on the notion that "even though this is 'your' computer, there
> > are things that 'you' should not be able to do" and will not let go.
>
> I prefer to phrase this as "your day-to-day normal login". "You" can still
> do almost anything by logging in as administrator, but this is now strongly
> discouraged in order to create a barrier between automatically-run
> malicious programs and critical system resources.
>
> But there are a few things that I think are overzealously protected. The
> one that I find problematic is MS-signed drivers. Without their signature,
> a driver won't load at boot time unless you take the system into developer
> mode and approve the driver with each boot. This should be something the
> owner of the machine can sign once to approve, presumably with suitable
> barriers to prevent a mindless click-through by a regular user. Without
> this, there's a significant barrier to entry by freeware and open source
> hardware driver writers.

Yeah, well, Microsoft thinks your last sentence describes a feature,
not a problem.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:59 pm
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Sundial Services wrote in


> Vista is the first Windows release that really embraces this... that
> grabs on the notion that "even though this is 'your' computer, there
> are things that 'you' should not be able to do" and will not let go.

I prefer to phrase this as "your day-to-day normal login". "You" can still
do almost anything by logging in as administrator, but this is now strongly
discouraged in order to create a barrier between automatically-run
malicious programs and critical system resources.

But there are a few things that I think are overzealously protected. The
one that I find problematic is MS-signed drivers. Without their signature,
a driver won't load at boot time unless you take the system into developer
mode and approve the driver with each boot. This should be something the
owner of the machine can sign once to approve, presumably with suitable
barriers to prevent a mindless click-through by a regular user. Without
this, there's a significant barrier to entry by freeware and open source
hardware driver writers.
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